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A while back we joined Link Exchange banner swap program. Although we started to carry the Link Exchange banners on our site right away, we held out in submitting our banner for other sites to display. After having accumulated close to million credits with Link Exchange in almost one year, we thought it was time to submit our banner and expose the web to Fade to Black. But things did not go as smoothly as we hoped.

We tossed around several concepts for the ad and decided to pay a small homage to National Lampoon magazine with a parody of their popular cover "Buy this magazine or we’ll shoot this dog."

 

Click Here or We'll Shoot This Senator

Below is the response our banner ad we received from Link Exchange and our subsequent email conversations.

From: admin@linkexchange.com
To: mpage@fadetoblack.com
Subject: Link Exchange - X020137

Although your web site is acceptable for membership in the LinkExchange
network, we are not able to advertise your banner on our network at this time.

Our members' banners are displayed on a network of over 100,000 different web sites. In order to insure that each banner advertised is acceptable to that audience, we insist that all banners are generally acceptable to the vast majority of our network members.

For example, the banner which you wish to advertise over the LinkExchange network must not contain curse words or inflammatory content.
In addition, unacceptable language or unacceptable imagery such as nudity; sexual imagery or graphic depictions of gruesome or sanguinary content will be cause for banner rejection, regardless of context.

Could you please redesign your banner and submit it to us again, so that we can begin advertising your web site?
If you have any questions or comments, please use the feedback form located at:

http://www.linkexchange.com/help.html

Thank you,
LinkExchange Quality Assurance Team

Thank you,
LinkExchange Quality Assurance Team
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To: admin@linkexchange.com
From: Michael Page
E-mail: mpage@fadetoblack.com
Account: X020137

We recently submitted a banner for our comedy magazine site which we believe was erroneously turned down. The banner featuring a picture of a gun and Senator Helms with the words "Click here or we'll shoot this Senator". The banner which most people will realize is an obvious parody of the very famous National Lampoon magazine cover which had the phrase "Buy this magazine or we'll shoot this dog"
We believe that the person reviewing our banner must have missed the satire which would be obvious to most people.

We hope you can accept our banner which we believe most people would find to be totally acceptable and entertaining.

Looking forward to your reply.

Fade to Black Comedy Magazine
mpage@fadetoblack.com
http://www.fadetoblack.com



 

From: LinkExchange <admin11@linkexchange.com>
To: Michael Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
Subject: Re: LinkExchange: Banner Submit

Hello Michael,

While we do recognize the satire in your banner, we are still unable to accept it. The issue is with the violence represented in the banner. First of all, the gun to the head of the senator, and secondly, the wording that states you will shoot a senator. While it is meant as comedy, we still cannot accept it, in jest or not.
Banners can appear on upwards of 100,000 web sites, and for this reason, we must be very strict about banner content. Banners must maintain a fairly neutral tone.

We hope you will consider redesigning your banner and submitting a new one to us.

-Angela

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To: LinkExchange <admin11@linkexchange.com>
From: Michael Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
Subject: Re: LinkExchange: Banner Submit

Dear: Angela

Thank you for taking the time to write to us and explain the reason for your company's decision not to accept our banner at this time. We understand that it is necessary for your company to exercise a certain amount of control over the banners which get viewed by millions of viewers through out the Internet. If you believe that our current banner might be found offensive by some we have no problem in resubmitting a new one.
Since the design of a banner is a rather time consuming ordeal we would like to get your opinion on the chances of our new banner being accepted before we actually begin the design.

Since you believe that the gun pointed at Senator Helms' head might be considered violent to some, would your review board have the same opinion if we were to place someone more universally disliked on the same banner? We were thinking of someone along the lines of Gallagher, Rip Taylor or anyone associated with MTV's show 'Singled Out'

Thank you for your time we hope we can get your input before actually beginning work on the new banner.

Thanks again, looking forward to your reply.

Sincerely,


Michael Page


From: LinkExchange <admin11@linkexchange.com>
To: Mike Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
Subject: Re: LinkExchange: Banner Submit

Hi Michael,

Those are some nice ideas, and clever as well. However, the issue isn't really with the chosen celebrity. It is, instead, with having a gun pointed at someone (or something).
If you have some other ideas, and would like to run them by me, I'd be happy to give you some feedback.

Thanks for taking the time to write, and I look forward to hearing from you.


-Angela

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To: LinkExchange <admin11@linkexchange.com>
From: Michael Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
Subject: Re: LinkExchange: Banner Submit

Dear: Angela

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I believe I understand your position. You are worried about the possible simulated death due to the picture of the gun and not necessarily the person in the picture. (If I misunderstood please let me know)

After reading your email we decided to change our banner. Would you have any objections to a banner of Senator Helms with a Fungo Bat next to him, with the words "CLICK HERE OR WE'LL CLUNK THIS SENATOR IN THE HEAD". I don't know about you, but I got hit in the head a few times with a Fango bat and it does not hurt very much, only stings temporarily.

Let me know if it is acceptable, so we can begin work on the new banner.

Thank you again for taking the time.

Michael Page

 

From: LinkExchange <admin11@linkexchange.com>
To: Michael Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
Subject: Re: LinkExchange: Banner Submit

Hello Michael,


I have to admit, you are cracking me up. But we still can't accept a banner which uses violence (even if it only stings a little).

We've had a long discussion about it, here in the office, and I'll try to give you some more clear guidelines based on that discussion. Essentially, a banner which says something like, click here or you won't win this prize, would be acceptable. However, one which says, click here or Jesse helms gets it in the face with a water balloon, would not be acceptable. The line here is drawn at the violence (even with a water balloon), and also the use of a public figure.

These things would be acceptable your site, but not for your banner. I hope this makes it more clear. If you have more ideas, that you'd like me to check, feel free. Have a good one. :)
-Angela

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To: LinkExchange <admin11@linkexchange.com>
From: Mike Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
Subject: Re: LinkExchange: Banner Submit


Dear : Angela

Thank you again for your advice. I apologize if in our correspondence I came across as being whimsical. I only wanted to get some information on your guidelines for the banner submission, since we are currently unclear. We'll resubmit a new banner ASAP.

Thank you for your time

Michael Page


Thus, we decided to give in to Angela and the fine folks at Link Exchange and ran the ad below for our article entitled, "Where's Christ".

Note to our fans: In response to the email we have received, please feel free to swipe the Jesse Helms banner mentioned in this article and display it our your pages. (With a link back to us of course!)

Thanks!
F2B Staff

 

The Linkexchange Exchange

Round II

 

But wait there is more. The day after our Linkexchange listing hit Yahoo we received this email message from Linkexchange.

From: admin@linkexchange.com
To: mpage@fadetoblack.com
Subject: LinkExchange - X020137

Thank you for participating in the LinkExchange advertising network. Unfortunately, at this time we do not advertise sites which contain nudity, adult material or links to such content. This includes ad networks if "NC-17" banners are displayed on your site. For more information, please review our Terms and Conditions for membership, located at: http://www.linkexchange.com/join/signup.html If you decide to change your page to meet our terms and conditions, or if you feel you have received this message in error, please notify admin@linkexchange.com so we can review your account.

 

We assume they were referring to an article we did entitled "The Hottest Feminist Contest" which had a picture of some frontal nudity. To see if this was really the reason for losing our Linkexchange account, we placed small black boxes over the picture in question and contacted Linkexchange.

 

From: Mike Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
To: admin@linkexchange.com
Subject: Re: Link Exchange - X020137

Dear Sir/Madam
We recently received a message from you, informing us on the cancellation of our contract, due to nudity on our website. Under farther investigation, we did indeed find to pictures which involved frontal nudity. To comply with our contractual agreements we made the provision to remove the nudity. If yo
rev1.gif (9486 bytes)u examine our site you will find that we took the time to cover parts of the anatomy which are considered obscene with little boxes similiar to the ones you see on the TV show Cops on the Fox Network. We currently are in full compliance with our contract, and ask that our account be reinstated.

Thanks you for your time.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

Sincerely

Michael Page

 

 

From: LinkExchange <admin@linkexchange.com>
To: mpage@fadetoblack.com
Subject: Re: Re: LinkExchange - X020137

Hi Mike, I will reinstate your account again. The woman on your front page was questionable but we decided it is not pornographic in nature. I'll have to submit your banner for you this time, but you'll need to submit it via me as an attachment. If you have any questions, please let me know. :)

Sincerely, -Mari

 

 

From: Mike Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
To: LinkExchange <admin@linkexchange.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Link Exchange - X020137

Thanks for your time.

Mike Page

 

Then for some reason we got the same message back from Linkexchange after submitting our banner.

 

From: admin@linkexchange.com
To: mpage@fadetoblack.com
Subject: LinkExchange - X020137

Thank you for participating in the LinkExchange advertising network. Unfortunately, at this time we do not advertise sites which contain nudity, adult material or links to such content. This includes ad networks if "NC-17" banners are displayed on your site. For more information, please review our Terms and Conditions for membership, located at: http://www.linkexchange.com/join/signup.html If you decide to change your page to meet our terms and conditions, or if you feel you have received this message in error, please notify admin@linkexchange.com so we can review your account.

 

 

From: Mike Page <mpage@fadetoblack.com>
To: admin@linkexchange.com
Subject: Re: LinkExchange - X020137

Dear: Sir.


I writing in reference to your email stating that our contract with you is being terminated. After being a LinkExchange member for
rev2.gif (11118 bytes)over a year and a half, I am inquiring on the direct reason for our termination. Since there is currently no nudity on our site, and there is also no links from our site to any pornographic material. Our content is adult oriented but contains no pornography and our use of words such as " Mongoloid", "Autoerotic-asphyxation" and "Drooling Retard" are used very sporadically and only when needed.
Please inform us the specific reason why we are being rejected after being members for such a long time, and contributing to LinkExchange at least a couple of million impressions?


Thanks you for your time, and I look forward to your reply.

Michael Page
Fade To Black

After this email our banner became reinstated.

A few days later we got this email from one of the principals of Linkexchange, who was extremely nice and sent us a very kind email. (Something which we appreciate since it was not something he had to do.)

 

From: Ali Partovi <apartovi@linkexchange.com>
To: mpage@fadetoblack.com
Subject: linking to you

Dear Mr. Page,

Happy new year! I am Ali, one of the principals at LinkExchange. I just had the pleasure and honor of reading your page at http://www.fadetoblack.com///linkexchange/ and I actually remember seeing the email exchange which was forwarded within our office back when it happened as an example of how difficult a job our member services staff has.

At any rate, first I wanted to apologize in retrospect for the frustration you seem to have felt during this email conversation. Second, I found the web page, including the layout and the choice of pull quotes, quite entertaining. I went on to "find Jesus" and browse through several pages of "Fade to Black." (some humble comments about your site: I love the name and how it fits the fading effect. I was surprised to see you don't have a masthead at the top with the memorable "Fade to Black" brand name and link back to the home page) Anyway, I was wondering to myself if it would make sense for us to link to your "LinkExchange EXCHANGE" page, as part of better educating people about our policies. Your case really illustrates the often funny but difficult decisions we have to make. I don't want others to go through the trouble you went through designing a banner that will be rejected. I haven't brought up the idea with anybody here yet, but first I thought I should ask you what you'd think. This could mean a few hundred to a few thousand additional visitors to your site from our new members join pages.

By the way, I noticed that you have a LinkExchange banner on your front page. Would you consider putting the banner "above the fold" on your site if we link to you? Also, for your own benefit, have you considered pasting it on multiple pages in order to get more credits? With content like that, I doubt you'd lose many visitors through the banners.

Your humble servant,
Ali Partovi LinkExchange.
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So it looks like we are back in cahoots with Linkexchange.....   at least for now.


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